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Specifies and Translation
of Pamphlet for: Credits of Images: Related
Pages: Correlation of the Characters
In the pamphlet, or film book, as prefer, of Tenkai it is introduced us a relationship of characters saying a summary of the lively series. It would not be anything too much, nothing new, didn't go some small details. Here is the page:
As they can see, the first view doesn't seem to appear great relevant innovations on Saint Seiya's plot, but we will resolve these information then... Leaving of the first picture in the high to the left, the one of the Olympic gods in Tenkai (I leave the general considerations for the end). Already of príncipio we were knowing, indeed, that the angels don't only obey Artemis or Apollo, but the the whole divine pantheon (Durh). Some can still raise the following doubt: Do Odisseus, Teseus and Icarus serve her all the Olympic or are these exclusive to the foregoing gods, having other for the others? It is noticed in the film that Artemis has a special esteem for Icarus, as if this went until his exclusive personal warrior, being the other subordinates of other gods, but that obey all in certain case. Is a possible vision, but what however, very tiny, would it depend on the continuation of the history (like this being, why would not obey Athena also? Because Athena is also an Olimpic)... The interesting in this picture of Tenkai is the connection that exists among him and picture of Makai, the demons' world. In other words, Lucifer inhabited Olympus, Tenkai until rebelling against the gods and to be exiled to the hell. We have to see like this Olympus not only as the Olympic gods' home, but, as the place of all of the divinities 'of the light', or at least, the gods that are in the power, in the command. I will talk more about this, and on the worlds, more the front. Another very controversial point is this: "How angels are and no mere humans"... would This contradict Hypermith, that says that the gods are only humans that reached Big Will (Divine Will)? What want saying it is, do two species exist, two races, or plus, different, what no human being? The gods' lineage, of the angels and of the humans? No, it is not this, the sentence says only that they are angels and no mere humans, but this doesn't make species distinction or race (at least no up to now, nothing appears for this), they continue being all humans with gradation of cosmic power. Humans usually, and rarely, they are only delimited to the Seventh Sense. It is well-known that the gods reach until the Ninth Sense, and well, an explanatory vacuum exists among these senses, maybe the angels are fit in in this point. Don't I say that it is the Eighth Sense, or well, even it can be, because the Eighth Felt was explored only in Hades in a certain way, the control on his soul and the death, but would only this be? And in terms that to can? Because, for the that was presented in the phase of the hell, this Eighth Sense no intefere in anything. (Before they hit stone... No, really the Eighth Sense doesn't elevate the cosmos, it only frees him. In all of the works of Saint Seiya, previous and subsequent, does it continue being said that the Seventh Sense the last cosmos is in terms of force, being very beyond the Divine Will something the force, do they understand? It is enough to think that your desire, your will, happens while the Seventh Sense if it limits to the force, in other words, he still needs for the hands to the mass). Conjunctures to the part, maybe the Angels are fit in in this area of twilight between the Absolute Will and the Absolute Force. (For that, who knows, the Gold Saint in the Episode G get to fight with the Titans). In short, gods exist, angels, demons and humans, but they are all 'genetically', so to speak, ''flour of the same sack''... In the picture of Meikai nothing doesn't exist again nor conflicting, then it polishes... A small detail appears in Fundação Graad's picture, no that it is innovation, but that maybe has unnoticed past in the head of many, the fact that Personal Accessor of Athena is who commands the Fundação Graad. Yes, Tatsumi is the boss, clear below Athena. Then, if we compare Tatsumi with the Master of the Shrine, the Steel Saints are their Saints and they have the duty of protecting him the any cost. Hahaha, would be graced to see this. (Imagining Tatsumi with an arrow in the chest and the Steel Saint going up the twelve houses) XD. Therefore I lower see the most important and relevant part of this page in if treating of specific details of Saint Seiya. The Warriors of Éris (the Warriors that struggled for her in the film, because you know that they are not Warlike original of her, in fact, where would her true warriors be?) are they fit in as Silver Saint by the connection of the pictures. It was always known that Lyra and Sagitta were silvered because of it encourages him and of the mangá, but the other ones, at least in the national dubbing (because the Japanese says albeit they are), never supplied us details, and only in hypotheses we stuck to the saying that the others were also silvered. Well then, here is the proof. They are all of the second hierarchy. The more onlooker is below, Abel. Should think... Bronze Saints? My son, it is the life. Camus and Shura lost for some mob persons with garments of the level of an Armor of Bronze. XD... But, It lets me to explain well and to leave free. Obviously the Warriors of Abel that appeared in the film don't use the original Armors of Bronze, such as the Black Saints, they should be some copy type or it is known it there that, being nominated Armors of the Solar Crown, until why the originals appear in Gigantomachia and in the Episode G (fact this that reminds me that this was not any innovation, nevertheless continue). The important in this correlation is what is said in the connection among the pictures, something as, if my Japanese doesn't fail, inferior warriors of Abel, of low level, subordinates inferior, and similar. It is of stunning, they are the worst warriors of Abel! It is even so expire gold!!! Thinking about the history of the film: Abel had been dropped by Zeus, Apollo and Hermes. Does sell on this side, to be necessary three gods of this load to give bill of Abel, maybe it is not so absurd that their weaker warriors give so much work, what would make the then more forts, not? (in fact, where would they also be? Do I play with this, but with certainty a thing would be without notion all the warriors of all the gods of the world wake up in a same time, not? What would have of so special at that time of Seiya? If it was still the time of the Apocalypse goes there, hehe). Continuing... we Penetrate in the picture of the Shrine. The first thing that we see is a hierarchical division, showing two species of warriors. One guided by constellations, other no, but even so, they are all Saint (Saint, the nomenclature is same in all of the cases, even in the Steel Saint, Ghost Saint, of Geist and Éris, and Saint of the Crown of the Sun, are all Saints). This leaves a discussion field a lot open to countless hypotheses. How did these Armors appear without constellation? In fact, which species came first? In the hypermith it is said that Athena, very late, only made their first armors after the attack of Poseidon in the first holy war among them. And of course she only expired after the participation of 8 Gold Saints. Before this there were not Armors, soon it is of ending that these without constellation are subsequent. Maybe maids for us to protect those weaker warriors, but as obstinate as the Saints in wanting to save Athena and the world. Sells this, and without could impel them to not to struggle, Athena would also create then these to protect them. After all 'they are all god's children, poor fellows'. Hehe. Now, there would be some logic of organization of these garments? Until we see some yes, only to notice Dócrates for instance. The Armor that he uses is only, different of all the other ones, in compensation, their soldiers' clothes are similar the one of him, but all uniforms, standardized, which in the group to think, maybe that, in the past the Armor of Dócrates went the one of a leader of a battalion. (do they remember scenes of the mangá, soon in the beginning, in what thousands of warriors, under influence of the Horsemen, did they fight? because then). The same is valid for the Armors of the Island of Andrômeda. It can be that are all traces of turbulent periods where they were necessary thousands of Armors. This way, looking at the hierarchy and expanding her, it would be like this:
Supreme - Athena; 1st Level - Master; 2nd Level - Gold Saints (direct subordinates of the Master) and Official of Orders Chief; 3rd Level - Silver Saints and Official of Orders (subordinates to the Master and Ordens Boss's Official); 4th Level - Bronze Saints and Leaders of Battalion (subordinates to the Master and the Official of Orders); 5th Level - Soldiers Rases and Soldiers of Battalion (subordinates to the Master and the Leaders of Battalion).
When subordinates tell the Master, so much directly as indirectly, as the one of Silver that are subordinated the Master and the Gold Saints; the one of Bronze subordinated the Master, to the of Gold and to the of Silver... In it encourages him and mangá scenes prove this hierarchy well. Gigars and Píton to command Leaders of Battalion, as Dócrates, and Silver Saints. Jabu and other Bronze Saints always watching some shallow soldier in patrol. Or when Albiore leads the Soldiers of the Island of Andrômeda. Then, like this, the whole inferior level is directly subordinated to the superior, under any command. Do I stand out that, was Official's of Ordens Chief position it of Gigars, while the one of Official of Orders was it of Píton, before this was promoted, and what, would not I know how to say groups of the same level order one in the other (how orders boss's official to give orders to a Gold Saint). In Gigantomachia Nicol it does occupy Official's of Ordens Chief position (and no the one of Master), and Yuri Official's of Orders position and do we see Nicol give orders the will, only that the any Gold Saint, because these nor do they appear in the plot, then not of the for knowing. Maybe some detail of the lively series I escape, showing that the Gold Saint don't accomplish orders of Official Chief, but I don't come to remind, in any way, the most probable is this, that they only follow the Master. I need to say here that such Armors are different from those mere corporal protections used in trainings or that some soldiers appear wearing. These, so to speak, are the fighters' mere informal clothes. XD. I almost forget, contradicting the Episode G, and following Hypermith, this book also says that they are only 48 Bronze Saint, agreeing likewise with Gigantomachia, or be 48 of Bronze and more 4 special. To the that seems, of all of the publications of Saint, only Megumu Okada's work says to be 52 warriors, maybe it has been a mistake that passed unnoticed for Kurumada. In any way, in the Episode G who utters that they are 52 Bronze Saint is the Titan Hipérion, well then, who understands more of the subjects of the Shrine? Hipérion or the own Shrine? If the Shrine says to have 48... XP. Actually, leaning the following: The Saga Gold happens in 1979, while the rest of the works happens in 1986. It will see that up to 1979 the Shrine counted that to the whole they were, probably 52 Armors of Bronze, because, being 88 constellations, if it completed the list, but Saga, as Gigantomachia says, exploring old parchments and looking for workmanships or any thing that increased him the power, came to discover a type different from Armor and it had ordered Death Mask look, and well, of this history we already know that Mei becomes Coma Berenices's Saint and that your clothes is totally different and of a brilliant black. Starting from then it was counted 48 Armors of Bronze and 4 of ignored origin. (Starting to fit in this group also the Armor of Lynx, the one of Retsu, of Eps G, that same not being black, she should have something of special, that it was not from knowledge of the Shrine to 1979). Actually then, my supposition, if they allow me I to do, I find then that, the Armors of the Crown of the Sun of Abel were not copies of the one of Athena, but that maybe Athena is that has copied them of Abel. Following, think this way: Abel is a god of the sun, therefore, astronomically is also linked to coordinated celestial and such. Maybe he also had their warriors governed by constellations. They should probably be different. I don't say that Lynx, Coma Berenice and Carina went of the Zodiac of Abel, since in this same page it is said that were the weakest. But they were of the Solar Crown, crown is something that surrounds, in other words, maybe it went of the surroundings of the zodiac, finally. In memory of the old combats among Abel, Apollo, Zeus and Hermes, the goddess Athena has if inspired to do their constellations and Armors, because to origins of the constellations it is mixed with the legends and the origin of the Armors. Fact that fortifies the theory is that in the hypermith is said that Athena looked for inspiration in old combatants as Hércules, and old legends. With certainty the constellations appeared, in the way that agent knows today, for flowing of these Armors, that were always governed by stars and like this being formed a new stellar map. (The stars were always there, but before they were ordered in another way, maybe in the way like Abel knew them). As it is not known when it happened the gods' battle against Abel, this hypothesis is plausible. Entering more deeply in this inspiration crop, influence and references for the creation of the Armors, in the picture of the sea world is also said that Athena used the Scales as reference to make their clothes. It is very obvious this, because Poseidon was the first to elaborate protecting garments in wide climbs and exactly to combat against her (reminding that Gaia and Cyclopes (this only miths) they had already made workmanships like this, only that few units). Another less important detail of this scan: The warriors of Durval are also God Warriors, as most already knew, now, it is known there as it is your hierarchy, since the one of him are not of Ursa Major, and they don't possess sapphires (like this not being able to nor to represent Ursa Major's other stars). Finally, the page reveals us that in Saint Seiya they exist, so to speak, 5 'worlds' that globalize all of the religions and mythologies:
Tenkai - Celestial World; Meikai - World of the Deads; Makai - World of the Demons; Kaikai - World of the Waters; Sekai - World of the Humans.
Only that it is not explained as they include hehe, we have some notion for the hypermith and other works, but any idea of the existence plans and nor of the because that exist, and nor of as they work. On these hours of the a revolt explore not all of the angles of the series, but also, this would be work for a Tolkien. Opa, good to also remind this relationship with the Episode G and the phase of Hades, where it is very mentioned the Tartar. This tartar is known in the Greek mythology as the deepest abyss and per times confused with Érebo... so much it does, in Saint Seiya, such world is Makai. Like this, the titans, like Lucifer, Cyclops and Hecatonquirons were arrested in this world, doesn't tend this anything there to be then with Hades. Let us say that the Tartar and Érebo (Makai) they are prisons of maximum safety used only for the most dangerous beings hehe. While Meikai is used for the simple humans' souls. On the six worlds of the metempsicose, I won't deepen myself a lot on, but as the own name says, they are hells of the psyche, of the own mind, to the which the men for their actions are arrested. Not having like this, physical relationship with these mentioned worlds. You can say and to think: that is trip too much, nor Kurumada must have thought about everything this. Until it would agree, but the evidences are there, being enough to see the films of Abel and other works well in full detail. In the film of same Abel he/she sees himself of glance Hermes in a scene, see hehe XD. I don't know if leaning Kurumada in everything alone, but in any way, this everything is only chance? |
